Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/11/2003 03:25 PM House L&C

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HB 195-INDIVIDUAL HEALTH CARE INSURANCE                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON  announced that the  next order of  business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 195,  "An  Act relating  to coverage  offered                                                               
under  an  individual  policy  of   health  care  insurance;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0793                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN moved to adopt  committee substitute (CS) for                                                               
HB  195,  Version  23-LS0690\Q,  Ford,  4/9/03,  as  the  working                                                               
document.   There being  no objection, Version  Q was  before the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0828                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG, as  sponsor  of HB  195, presented  the                                                               
bill.    He  explained  that  an  official  of  the  Division  of                                                               
Insurance will  address the changes  in the  CS.  Alaska  and the                                                               
nation are  in the midst  of a  health care financial  crisis, he                                                               
said.   People  are contributing  a greater  percentage of  their                                                               
disposable  income to  the increasing  cost of  health insurance.                                                               
This committee  has been working  to contain those costs,  and HB
195 is a  small tool the insurance industry can  use to lower the                                                               
cost  of insurance  for individuals  who don't  participate in  a                                                               
health insurance plan.   The section of the bill  relating to the                                                               
insurance mandates is only for  individual policies, which covers                                                               
individuals and  their families.   The bill  does not  affect the                                                               
insurance  mandates   for  group   plans.     Insurance  statutes                                                               
differentiate  between  individual  and  group  polices  and  has                                                               
different rules for each.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0923                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG explained  that legislatures  across the                                                               
country have  mandated coverage of  certain types of  services in                                                               
[group] insurance  policies.   The result  has been  a continuous                                                               
rise in  the cost  of insurance.   Certain  underwriting policies                                                               
apply  to group  policies,  but they  don't  apply to  individual                                                               
plans.     Therefore,   there's  more   flexibility  in   writing                                                               
individual plans,  he said.   Many  people in  a group  plan have                                                               
employer contributions  that help  offset the costs.   If  HB 195                                                               
can help  lower the  cost of an  individual insurance  plan, more                                                               
people will  be apt to  buy insurance.   Allowing products  to be                                                               
underwritten by  the insurance business that  would enable people                                                               
to afford a  [health insurance] policy is a good  thing, he said.                                                               
He  predicted  that  this  bill  may  generate  some  controversy                                                               
because all these mandated services  [in group policies] are good                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1025                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG listed the  health care services mandated                                                               
by  state law  [for group  policies], which  include acupuncture,                                                               
midwives   services,  eye   care,   substance  abuse   treatment,                                                               
mammography, PKU (phenylketonuria),  dental and vision, diabetes,                                                               
and  prostate and  cervical cancer  screening.   Federal mandates                                                               
cover  newly born  children,  postpartum  hospital coverage,  and                                                               
reconstructive  surgery  following  mastectomies.   He  explained                                                               
that the legislature cannot change the federal mandates.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG stated that  HB 195 allows an underwriter                                                               
to  write  a  policy  that  doesn't  contain  the  state-mandated                                                               
services.  For example, he said,  he doesn't need to buy a health                                                               
plan for himself that includes mammogram coverage.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN noted that men  do need mammography coverage;                                                               
he said a good [male] friend of his died of breast cancer.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1135                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG   said  HB  195  allows   the  insurance                                                               
community to write a product that is cheaper.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  described  the  ACHIA  program  (Alaska                                                               
Comprehensive  Health   Insurance  Association),  which   is  the                                                               
insurance of  last resort  in Alaska.   This program  is required                                                               
under  the  federal  HIPAA   (Health  Insurance  Portability  and                                                               
Accountability  Act of  1996).   He said  Alaska provides  health                                                               
coverage  for anyone  who cannot  buy  it elsewhere.   The  ACHIA                                                               
insurance has a relatively high  premium, but it is subsidized by                                                               
all  the health  insurance underwriters  in the  state.   He said                                                               
that the other health insurance  [companies] had to contribute $2                                                               
million  to help  pay the  premiums  of people  who couldn't  buy                                                               
insurance  elsewhere.   He  explained  that  it  is a  very  good                                                               
program for  those people who  can afford the premiums  but can't                                                               
get insurance  otherwise because of pre-existing  conditions.  He                                                               
alerted  committee  members  that  they  may  be  able  to  refer                                                               
constituents to this program.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1221                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ROKEBERG  explained   that  the   federal  Trade                                                               
Adjustment  Assistance  Reform Act  of  2002  (TAA), PL  207-210,                                                               
provides a subsidy for health insurance.   He used the example of                                                               
a  person in  the fishing  industry who  loses a  job because  of                                                               
foreign trade  activity -  for example,  when Chileans  dump fish                                                               
[in US  markets at  below-market prices].   The  person qualifies                                                               
for  [health]  insurance from  Alaska's  ACHIA  program, and  the                                                               
federal government will pick up 65 percent of the premium.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1326                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  clarified  his  earlier  remark  about  men                                                               
needing mammograms.   He said about  5 percent of the  people who                                                               
die of breast cancer are males.   He said the problem is that men                                                               
do not typically have breast  exams; therefore by the time breast                                                               
cancer  is discovered,  it's very  far advanced.   He  also asked                                                               
about  phenylketonuria, which  is on  the list  of state-mandated                                                               
coverage for group policies.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1414                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DAHLSTROM  explained  that phenylketonuria  is  a                                                               
very rare condition  in a small number of  newborns that prevents                                                               
the normal  use of protein  in the body.   One timely  shot takes                                                               
care of the condition.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  asked  about  the  list  of  state-mandated                                                               
health  insurance  services.   He  asked  if these  are  elective                                                               
procedures.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG replied  that  HB  195 allows  insurance                                                               
underwriters to design  a policy [for an  individual] and exclude                                                               
those mandates.   The idea  is to lower  the cost of  the policy.                                                               
For  example, a  customer  may not  need or  want  the option  of                                                               
substance  abuse treatment,  which  can  be extremely  expensive.                                                               
Premera Blue Cross sent a letter of  support for HB 195.  He said                                                               
he  has asked  Premera  Blue Cross  to  calculate an  approximate                                                               
savings  for a  policy [without  these mandates].   The  State of                                                               
Washington is also considering a similar bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1489                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  asked if the goal  of this bill is  to save                                                               
money.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  replied that this  is part of  the goal;                                                               
the idea is to entice somebody  to obtain insurance coverage.  An                                                               
individual could still  ask for some of the  mandated services in                                                               
the policy.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  noted  that  if   he  is  able  to  select                                                               
components of  his policy, he will  pay less and that  helps him.                                                               
But,  he stated,  the insurance  companies will  be disadvantaged                                                               
because their policies are priced  to cover these mandated items.                                                               
He  asked  if the  insurance  companies  will  make up  the  lost                                                               
revenue on other policies.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1541                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  said that cost shifting  among insurance                                                               
companies is  a common  practice.  Most  people with  health care                                                               
insurance in Alaska are covered  under group plans.  According to                                                               
the Division  of Insurance's 2001 Health  Insurance Survey, there                                                               
were  5,843 individual  policies in  force  at the  end of  2001;                                                               
14,946  people,  including  dependents,  were  covered  by  those                                                               
policies.  The  premiums on those policies cost $24  million.  He                                                               
said the vast  majority of the policies that  are underwritten in                                                               
Alaska  are either  group or  self-insured plans,  and they  must                                                               
include the state-mandated services.   This [exception from state                                                               
mandates] is intended for individual  policies.  In his own case,                                                               
as a self-employed independent contractor,  he said he was on his                                                               
own  seeking  insurance, and  it  was  a  constant problem.    He                                                               
couldn't  join an  HMO (health  maintenance organization),  which                                                               
are not present in Alaska.  If  he had had the opportunity to buy                                                               
a major medical policy with no  mandates that he could afford, he                                                               
would have  done that.   He said  he wants to  do more  than just                                                               
save costs; he  wants to make an affordable  policy available and                                                               
allow that product to be on the  market.  He said he wants people                                                               
to buy a product they can afford.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1636                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  asked  why insurance  companies  have  not                                                               
already [taken this step].                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG replied  that insurance  companies could                                                               
not  offer  this type  of  health  coverage [minus  the  mandated                                                               
service]; the state forced them  to offer the mandated coverages.                                                               
He said he thinks insurance  companies will offer these new types                                                               
of policies  because they are  looking for new products  to sell.                                                               
They want to  make a profit, but they can't  if they are required                                                               
to include all these services and underwrite for them.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1739                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG  said health  care should  be available                                                               
to everyone; what people pay for  it is another issue.  He stated                                                               
that he favors the idea of  allowing the industry to offer looser                                                               
coverage  because  more  people  are getting  covered.    But  he                                                               
questioned who would be left out.   He said he wants to see where                                                               
this approach goes.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1822                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KATIE CAMPBELL,  Life and Health Actuary,  Division of Insurance,                                                               
Department of  Community and Economic Development,  discussed the                                                               
federal  Trade Adjustment  Assistance Reform  Act (TAA)  in 2002.                                                               
She said that it gives  people who have become unemployed because                                                               
of international  trade the option  to purchase  qualified health                                                               
insurance coverage;  the federal  government will pay  65 percent                                                               
of  their premium.    The  program is  administered  by the  U.S.                                                               
Department  of Treasury  and  the Alaska  Department  of Labor  &                                                               
Workforce Development.   A qualified person has  four options for                                                               
health coverage  for a two-year  period.  The  federal government                                                               
will cover  65 percent of the  premiums for any of  the following                                                               
four options:   1)  continued health  coverage from  the person's                                                               
former  employer  through  COBRA  (Comprehensive  Omnibus  Budget                                                               
Reform  Act);  2) continued  coverage  through  a current  health                                                               
insurance plan;  3) continued  coverage by  a spouse's  plan that                                                               
paid less than  50 percent of the premium; and  4) coverage under                                                               
a state's high risk pool.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1888                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAMPBELL explained  that the fourth option is  added to state                                                               
law  through HB  195.   If  a person  who is  eligible under  TAA                                                               
applies for  the state's high  risk ACHIA pool, then  the federal                                                               
government will  pay 65 percent  of that premium.   She explained                                                               
that in order for these  individuals to purchase coverage through                                                               
the high risk  pool, state law needed to be  changed so that they                                                               
didn't  have  to  be  high  risk or  eligible  under  the  Health                                                               
Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA).                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CAMPBELL explained  proposed Amendment  1.   Drafted by  the                                                               
department, it  will allow those  people into the  high-risk pool                                                               
and  not subject  them to  some  of the  requirements that  would                                                               
disqualify it as  a qualified health plan.  Amendment  1 reads as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, after line 7 add a new section 4 to read:                                                                          
     *Sec.4. AS 21.55.300(a) is amended to read:                                                                              
          (a) Except as provided in this section, a state                                                                       
     resident   who  is   a  high   risk,  a   TAA  eligible                                                                  
     individual, or a  federally defined eligible individual                                                                  
     is eligible to  enroll in a state plan  described in AS                                                                    
     21.55.100.                                                                                                                 
     Page 3, lines 14-15 amend to read:                                                                                         
          (23) "qualified TAA eligible individual" means a                                                                      
     qualifying  individual as  defined under  26 U.S.C.  35                                                                    
     (Internal Revenue  Code, as enacted  by sec.  201(a) of                                                                  
     the Trade Adjustment Assistance Reform Act of 2002).                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CAMPBELL  explained  that   Section  4(a)  in  the  proposed                                                               
Amendment 1 adds a TAA-eligible  individual to the ACHIA program.                                                               
The second part of the  amendment makes a consistent reference to                                                               
the  Trade  Adjustment  Assistance  Reform  Act  of  2002.    Ms.                                                               
Campbell confirmed that the department supports this amendment.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 2002                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CRAWFORD  asked about  the individual cost  to get                                                               
into the ACHIA program.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAMPBELL replied  that a plan with a $1,000  deductible for a                                                               
45-year-old  has a  $692 premium.   If  the person  were eligible                                                               
through the  TAA, the  person's portion would  be $242  after the                                                               
federal tax  credit.  The state  sets the premium at  150 percent                                                               
of the individual health insurance rate on the open market.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CRAWFORD said  the  whole idea  of spreading  the                                                               
risk  in insurance  means  enrolling as  many  healthy people  as                                                               
possible to help pay for  the mandated services [in group plans].                                                               
The problem is that people  are self-selecting out of these pools                                                               
and signing up with cheaper plans, he said.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAMPBELL said in the  group market, the employer decides what                                                               
items to  cover.  For  individual health insurance  policies, the                                                               
insurance companies design a plan that  they think is a good plan                                                               
that will sell;  some are lower benefit plans;  others are higher                                                               
benefit plans.  For example,  an individual policy may only cover                                                               
hospital   admissions,  which   is   valuable  coverage   because                                                               
hospitals are  generally a person's  greatest expense,  she said.                                                               
If  HB  195  passed,  the insurance  companies  would  presumably                                                               
design a  plan that  would not  include the  mandates.   A person                                                               
would  have  a  choice  of   an  individual  plan  that  includes                                                               
mandates, which  would be  a little more  expensive, or  one that                                                               
doesn't.   It  would be  the consumer's  choice.   She reiterated                                                               
that  Premera Blue  Cross would  be doing  some estimates  on the                                                               
impact of removing those mandates [from individual policies].                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2185                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  said that the committee  can assume that                                                               
by allowing  insurance companies  to design products  without the                                                               
mandates, the resulting policies will  be cheaper.  Right now, he                                                               
said, companies  don't do  much designing like  they do  in group                                                               
policies  with their  menu  selections.   He  has requested  Blue                                                               
Cross and Aetna  to show what kind of savings  these policies can                                                               
generate for the consumer.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  asked  Ms.   Campbell  to  explain  why                                                               
individual plans  generally are cheaper than  group plans because                                                               
of the guarantee issue.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2260                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAMPBELL explained that in  the large group market, companies                                                               
generally  guarantee  [coverage  of every  policyholder]  because                                                               
it's a larger market, and  insurance companies want to sell these                                                               
policies.    She said  that  is  also  true  in the  small  group                                                               
insurance  market;  an  insurance  company that  writes  in  that                                                               
market cannot  refuse to cover  someone, regardless of  the risk.                                                               
So if there are a number  of unhealthy employees in a small group                                                               
policy,  the   insurance  company   can't  refuse  to   cover  an                                                               
individual; therefore,  it's more costly insurance.   However, in                                                               
the individual market,  insurance companies ask a  lot of medical                                                               
questions.   For example,  if a  customer has  had cancer  in the                                                               
last  five years,  they're not  going to  issue a  policy to  the                                                               
person.  Or if the person has had  a back problem, they may put a                                                               
rider excluding  coverage for back  treatments.  So  if customers                                                               
have those kinds of conditions,  they go to the high-risk [ACHIA]                                                               
pool where they are guaranteed coverage.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2311                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG stated  that in  group plans,  the large                                                               
majority  of employers  pay  a  portion of  the  premium, so  the                                                               
policyholder tends to  pay less out of pocket than  a person with                                                               
an individual  plan.  He  said it's ironic that  individual plans                                                               
may be cheaper than group  plans, but because there's no employer                                                               
contribution,  the  out-of-pocket  cost  may be  higher  for  the                                                               
individual.    He  pointed  out that  in  individual  plans,  the                                                               
insurance  company doesn't  cover preexisting  conditions, unless                                                               
it is  a very expensive policy.   He said HB  195 doesn't address                                                               
that issue.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 03-33, SIDE B                                                                                                            
Number 2368                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked about  the insurance options available                                                               
to a young college graduate with  a degree, a $40,000 school loan                                                               
debt, and no job.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAMPBELL said the person would  go to an insurance agent or a                                                               
broker and  get some quotes  on policies.   One company  offers a                                                               
policy  for a  $186 monthly  premium, with  a $l,000  deductible.                                                               
She answered a question from  Representative Gatto about coverage                                                               
of successive  cancers.  She  said the company  probably wouldn't                                                               
have  covered the  first cancer,  and  if the  second cancer  was                                                               
related to  the first  cancer, the company  would not  cover that                                                               
one either.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2265                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG  asked  several  questions  about  the                                                               
details  of the  federal subsidy  of health  insurance under  the                                                               
Trade Adjustment Assistance Reform Act.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAMPBELL  said the federal  subsidy takes  the form of  a tax                                                               
credit.   The  person [who  lost a  job because  of international                                                               
trade] applies to  become eligible, and starting  in August 2003,                                                               
the  U.S. Department  of Treasury  will  issue tax  credits on  a                                                               
monthly basis, instead of waiting till  the end of the year.  The                                                               
person is covered for two years  then is no longer eligible.  The                                                               
trade scene may shift, and the  person may return to the previous                                                               
job or find a new one.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2193                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  reviewed  the   four  types  of  health                                                               
insurance  premiums  that  can be  partially  subsidized  through                                                               
federal  tax credits.   He  emphasized  that HB  195 only  covers                                                               
federal subsidies for access to ACHIA coverage.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 2152                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PAULA  SCAVERA, Special  Assistant, Office  of the  Commissioner,                                                               
Department of  Labor & Workforce Development,  explained that the                                                               
Trade Adjustment  Assistance Reform  Act is  for people  who have                                                               
lost their jobs due to competition  from foreign imports.  In the                                                               
last few years, timber and  oil industry workers [in Alaska] have                                                               
been qualified  for assistance  under this  law.   Most recently,                                                               
fishing  industry workers  have  become eligible.    In the  late                                                               
1990's,  there were  hundreds of  people eligible,  but recently,                                                               
displaced workers have numbered in  the thousands.  There's money                                                               
for training, retraining, and this health care tax credit.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCAVERA  said she  would provide the  number of  workers from                                                               
the  oil  and  other  industries who  have  qualified  for  these                                                               
federal benefits.   She noted that the  department is publicizing                                                               
the  program  through  its  job  centers.    The  information  is                                                               
available on  the department's  web site,  and the  department is                                                               
contacting  companies  directly.    Because  the  department  was                                                               
recently added to HB 195,  she is developing additional materials                                                               
for legislators.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1986                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SHAUNA HARPER,  TAA Program  Coordinator, Division  of Employment                                                               
Security, Department of Labor  & Workforce Development, responded                                                               
to a  question from Representative  Guttenberg about  the history                                                               
of the  Trade Adjustment  Assistance Reform  Act.   She testified                                                               
that the TAA  was established in 1974; it was  reformed on August                                                               
6, 2002, when  the health care tax provision was  added.  The law                                                               
sunsets in  2007 but  has been reauthorized  every three  or four                                                               
years since 1974.  Other  benefits include retraining, job search                                                               
allowances, relocation  allowances, and weekly benefits  that are                                                               
similar to unemployment insurance.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1920                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG   moved  to  adopt  Amendment   1  [text                                                               
provided  previously].   There  being  no  objection, it  was  so                                                               
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1890                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM moved to report CSHB 195, Version 23-                                                                  
LS0690\Q,  Ford,   4/9/03,  as   amended,  from   committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the accompanying  committee zero                                                               
fiscal  note.    There  being no  objection,  CSHB  195(L&C)  was                                                               
reported out of the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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